IRAQ
Vice-President Dick Chaney On Iraq
In
a private meeting in September 2002,
Chaney tried to convince Dick Armey, the Republican House majority
leader, who was skeptical about a war in Iraq. Here is Chaney's
prediction:
"We have great information. They're going to welcome us. It'll be
like the American Army going through the streets of Paris. They're
sitting there ready to form a new government. The people will be so
happy with their freedoms that we'll probably back ourselves out of
there within a month or two."
Source: Robert Draper: Dead Certain: The Presidency of George W.
Bush, Free Press, 2007)
Talkback:
Nothing needs to be said.
Just quote the fool.
George W. Bush has promised to
veto Democratic-inspired budget proposals.
Talkback:
Nothing means more to Bush and his Republican enablers than
cutting taxes. Hence, Bush is the only American President to urge
cutting taxes while in a war.
With untold billions earmarked for Iraq and other military misadventures, look for more cuts in children's healthcare, less money for mine safety inspections, less money actually available for the Gulf Coast, and more bridge and tunnel failures The money for Iraq has to come from somewhere.
Republicans, with bizarre illogic, approve
spending whatever is needed to achieve "victory" in Iraq but oppose
providing government aid for needs at home.
George W. Bush believes we're
"kicking ass" in Iraq. According to the Sydney Morning
Herald of Australia, the president gave the following assessment of
the situation in Iraq to Australia Deputy Prime Minister Mark
Vaile: "We're kicking ass."
Talkback:
Some of Mr. Bush's observations are so patently absurd that
no response is needed. September 8, 2007
George W. Bush's top advisers have
told him not to change course in Iraq.
Talkback:
Of course they do. At least the
new ones do. Bush finds a way to get rid of advisers who disagree
with him.
When the Baker-Hamilton panel, which was evenly divided between
Democrats and Republicans, recommended changing course--scaling back
military operations and using diplomacy--the White House blocked the
reconvening of the panel. September 9, 2007
George W. Bush says we have an obligation to protect what he calls
the fragile, new democracy in Iraq.
Talkback: It takes more than an election to be a democracy. Saddam Hussein held elections. The Iraqi government is a puppet government; its elected officials were vetted by Bush enablers before they were allowed to run. The present government is a puppet government so unpopular that it cannot be shown to the public. When it meets occasionally, it must do so in the most secure part of Baghdad. (September 8, 2007)
George W. Bush on
Iraq's Militia Groups
In his speech to the American Legion on August 28, 2007, President
Bush stated: "For all those who ask whether the fight in Iraq is
worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by Iran
control large parts of the country."
Talkback:
Militias and their political allies already control large
parts of the country.
September 1, 2007
Bush on Victory in Iraq
Talkback: Bush plans to stay in Iraq until he leaves
office. His successor will have to bring the troops home. When
that happens, Bush will cynically state that if his successor had
not quit and run, victory would have been achieved. Bush thus
calculates that he has it both ways. If, by some miracle, Iraq is
stabilized before he leaves office, he claims victory. If that
doesn't happen, Bush blames his successor.
Bush Listens to Commanders in the Field,
Not to Politicians
Talkback: Tell that to General George W. Casey, commander of
U.S. forces in Iraq, who opposed the "surge." Bush fired General
Casey. Bush does listen to people--if they agree with him.
Bush on Training
the Iraqi Security Forces To Take Over
Talkback: Who's to say that
Americans are not training and equipping death squads,
out-of-control religious militia, and rogue units? In fact, there's
strong evidence that this is already happening. Is it too
difficult to remember that a few decades ago, Americans trained and
equipped Afghan tribesmen to fight the Russians? Those tribal units
in Afghanistan subsequently morphed into the Taliban, which now
kills Americans.
The Iraq war has made the world a
safer place.
Talkback:
A report from U.S. intelligence agencies in July 2007 concluded
that the Iraq war had helped al-Qaeda gain recruits, raise more
money, and given a new generation of terrorists valuable
experience. ("National Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat
to the US Homeland," July 2007)
We should be
patient. The American Revolution took a long time.
On July 4, 2007, Bush compared the conflict in Iraq with the
American Revolution.
Talkback: There's a problem with that comparison. In the
American Revolution--the insurgents won.
Bush deliberately pinned his Presidency on the outcome of the Iraq War. The relatively easy initial invasion morphed into a deadly three-way civil war. Americans sided with the Shia sect, which is more radical than the Sunnis, and hated by them. Prior to the occupation, of the 50-plus Islamic nations, there was only one Shia-ruled nation--Iran. Now there are two. And Iraq has been dismembered into three weak states dominated by three ethnic/religious groups: Kurds, Shia, and Sunni.
If
we don’t fight the enemy in
Iraq, we will have to
fight them here.
Talkback: Tell this to the British. They are fighting the
enemy in Iraq but the British presence in
Iraq has not prevented terrorists to attack targets in Great
Britain. In fact, the British involvement in Iraq has probably
heightened the risk by inflaming its Islamic population.
Talkback: If Americans were not in
Iraq, the billions of dollars that have been spent there could be
invested in homeland security.
Talkback: Why should the enemy risk transporting combatants
to kill Americans here when the President is willing to transport
American targets to them?
Talkback: Hundreds of thousands have been transported at
enormous expense to the killing fields of Iraq, where they are shot
at and bombed at the enemy's discretion.
"Progress" in Iraq and
General
Petraeus
Talkback: So far, every month of
2007 has seen more U.S. military fatalities than
the same month in 2006.
General
Petraeus
says the number of civilian casualties has declined in
Baghdad since
the surge.
Talkback: The number seems to have
declined in Baghdad but has increased outside Baghdad. Why? The
insurgents have moved their operations to less-heavily patrolled
areas. The word "seems" is used because the Pentagon has not
explained how the numbers are calculated or if they have been
independently verified. Also, in some Baghdad neighborhoods, sadly,
ethnic cleansing has been completed and few are left to kill.
Talkback based on Paul Krugman, "Snow Job in the Desert," New York
Times, 7-3-07, p. A17
Talkback:
Today's NY Times contains a
front-page story about the decline of casualties in Baghdad, but as
an almost silent rebuke is a box that contains the names of three
Americans who died within the past 24 hours. Yesterday's box
contained four names. If everything is going so swimmingly, why do
we still see those names?
November 24, 2007
Talkback: If things are going so well in Iraq, why don't we
declare victory and come home? November 24, 2007
Representatives Tim
Mahoney of Florida and
Representative Brian Baird say that they see evidence of "progress"
in Iraq. Mahoney's conclusion is based on a visit he made to Iraq
in August 2007
Talkback: What visitors
see is what the military wants the visitors to see. Nobody goes
outside the safest areas of
Iraq without military protection and
guidance--not even Iraqi journalists. We are totally dependant on
the military for virtually all information about how much progress
the military is making. September 2, 2007
We can trust
General
Petraeus.
Talkback: General
Petraeus is
the father of the surge. How objective can we expect him to be
about his own idea? September 3, 2007
General
Petraeus
is not a politician.
Talkback: Really?
He is more political than his press would have us believe. For
example, just six weeks before the 2004 election,
Petraeus
wrote an op-ed article in The
Washington Post in which he claimed
that there had been "tangible progress" and that "momentum had
gathered in recent months."
You can be sure that the
general's
piece was vetted at the highest levels, and that it certainly would
not have been permitted had
Petraeus been
critical of the Iraq War. If the
general is
not political, why did he publish just before a critical election?
One other question. Does the
general
always see "progress" ? September 3, 2007
If we pull out now, we
will give the radical Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will lose
their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody should have thought about the
consequences of failure before trying to occupy and destroy the
social infrastructure of an existing society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan,
Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan, Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you
own it.
Talkback: This is sometimes
true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if you keep
breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never come back
If we pull out, the
extremists will take over.
Talkback: They already have.
The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the radicals
will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens of
thousands.
Talkback: The American occupation has become a rallying cry,
a stimulus to radicalize ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that
Americans today are absolutely hated in that part of the world--a
dangerous sea change of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no
Saigon moment in Iraq.
Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of losing the civil war
to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times as numerous as Iraq's
Sunni Arabs...Iraq after an American
defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a land divided
along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a civil war
being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The New York
Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the
job.
Talkback: The definition of
'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.
Americans have never
cut and run.
Talkback:
Have you never heard of Viet Nam?
Have you never seen the photograph of American helicopters rescuing
survivors from the roof of the American embassy in Saigon? Have
you never heard of Lebanon? After 244 American military personnel
were killed in Beirut in the bombing of Marine barracks in 1983,
President Reagan vowed to remain in Lebanon. In 1984, he ordered
the withdrawal of American forces.
We are at war.
Talkback: America has
been at war with somebody for over 60 years, Yet the nation got
through a Cold War with a nuclear-armed, long-range-missile-equipped
super-power without power-grabs by Presidents. Just because the
nation is fighting a war does not mean that its people should give
up long-cherished freedoms or allow the President the powers of a
dictator.
Talkback: There’s a qualitative and quantitative difference between being at war and being in a war. A big difference.
If we pull out now, we will give the radical
Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will
lose their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody
should have thought about the consequences of failure before trying
to occupy and destroy the social infrastructure of an existing
society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan, Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan,
Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you own it.
Talkback: This is
sometimes true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if
you keep breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never
come back
If we pull out, the extremists will take
over.
Talkback: They already
have. The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the
radicals will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens
of thousands.
Talkback: The American
occupation has become a rallying cry, a stimulus to radicalize
ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that Americans today are
absolutely hated in that part of the world--a dangerous sea change
of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no Saigon
moment in Iraq. Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of
losing the civil war to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times
as numerous as Iraq's Sunni Arabs...Iraq after
an American defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a
land divided along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a
civil war being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The
New York Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the job.
Talkback: The definition
of 'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.
Americans have never cut and run.
Talkback: Have you never heard
of Viet Nam? Have you never seen the photograph of American
helicopters rescuing survivors from the roof of the American embassy
in Saigon? Have you never heard of Lebanon? After 244 American
military personnel were killed in Beirut in the bombing of Marine
barracks in 1983, President Reagan vowed to remain in Lebanon. In
1984, he ordered the withdrawal of American forces.
George W. Bush has promised to veto
Democratic-inspired budget proposals.
Talkback:
Nothing means more to Bush and his Republican enablers than cutting taxes.
Hence, Bush is the only American President to urge cutting taxes while in
a war.
With untold billions earmarked for Iraq and other military misadventures, look for more cuts in children's healthcare, less money for mine safety inspections, less money actually available for the Gulf Coast, and more bridge and tunnel failures The money for Iraq has to come from somewhere.
Republicans, with bizarre illogic, approve spending whatever is needed to
achieve "victory" in Iraq but oppose providing government aid for
needs at home.
George W. Bush believes we're "kicking ass" in Iraq.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald of Australia, the
president gave the following assessment of the situation in Iraq to
Australia Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile: "We're kicking ass."
Talkback:
Some of Mr. Bush's observations are so patently absurd that
no response is needed. September 8, 2007
George W. Bush's top advisers have told him not to
change course in Iraq.
Talkback: Of
course they do. At least the new ones do. Bush finds a way to
get rid of advisers who
disagree with him.
When the Baker-Hamilton panel, which was evenly divided between Democrats
and Republicans, recommended changing course--scaling back military
operations and using diplomacy--the White House blocked the reconvening of
the panel. September 9, 2007
George W. Bush says we have an obligation to protect what he calls the
fragile, new democracy in Iraq.
Talkback: It takes more than an election to be a democracy. Saddam Hussein held elections. The Iraqi government is a puppet government; its elected officials were vetted by Bush enablers before they were allowed to run. The present government is a puppet government so unpopular that it cannot be shown to the public. When it meets occasionally, it must do so in the most secure part of Baghdad. (September 8, 2007)
George W. Bush on Iraq's Militia
Groups
In his speech to the American Legion on August 28, 2007,
President Bush stated: "For all those who ask whether the fight in
Iraq is worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by
Iran control large parts of the country."
Talkback:
Militias and their political allies already control
large parts of the country.
September 1, 2007
Bush on Victory in Iraq
Talkback: Bush plans to stay in
Iraq until he leaves office. His successor will have to bring
the troops home. When that happens, Bush will cynically state
that if his successor had not quit and run, victory would have been
achieved. Bush thus calculates that he has it both ways. If,
by some miracle, Iraq is stabilized before he leaves office, he claims
victory. If that doesn't happen, Bush blames his
successor.
Bush Listens to Commanders in the Field, Not to
Politicians
Talkback: Tell that to General George W. Casey,
commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, who opposed the "surge." Bush
fired General Casey. Bush does listen to people--if they agree with
him.
Bush on Training the Iraqi Security Forces To Take
Over
Talkback: Who's
to say that Americans are not training and equipping death squads,
out-of-control religious militia, and rogue units? In fact, there's
strong evidence that this is already happening. Is it too
difficult to remember that a few decades ago, Americans trained and
equipped Afghan tribesmen to fight the Russians? Those tribal units
in Afghanistan subsequently morphed into the Taliban, which now kills
Americans.
The Iraq war has made the world a safer
place.
Talkback: A
report from U.S. intelligence agencies in July 2007 concluded that the
Iraq war had helped al-Qaeda gain recruits, raise more money, and given a
new generation of terrorists valuable experience. ("National
Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat to the US Homeland," July
2007)
We should be patient. The American Revolution
took a long time. On July 4, 2007, Bush compared the
conflict in Iraq with the American Revolution.
Talkback: There's a problem with that comparison. In the
American Revolution--the insurgents won.
Bush deliberately pinned his Presidency on the outcome of the Iraq War. The relatively easy initial invasion morphed into a deadly three-way civil war. Americans sided with the Shia sect, which is more radical than the Sunnis, and hated by them. Prior to the occupation, of the 50-plus Islamic nations, there was only one Shia-ruled nation--Iran. Now there are two. And Iraq has been dismembered into three weak states dominated by three ethnic/religious groups: Kurds, Shia, and Sunni.
If we
don’t fight the enemy in Iraq, we will have to fight them here.
Talkback:
Tell this to the British.
They are fighting the enemy in Iraq but the British presence in Iraq
has not prevented terrorists to attack targets in Great Britain. In
fact, the British involvement in Iraq has probably heightened the
risk by inflaming its Islamic population.
Talkback:
If Americans were not in Iraq, the billions of
dollars that have been spent there could be invested in homeland
security.
Talkback:
Why should the enemy risk
transporting combatants to kill Americans here when the President is
willing to transport American targets to them?
Talkback: Hundreds of
thousands have been transported at enormous expense to the killing
fields of Iraq, where they are shot at and bombed at the enemy's
discretion.
"Progress" in Iraq and
General
Petraeus
Talkback: So far, every month of 2007
has seen more U.S. military fatalities than the same month in 2006.
General
Petraeus says the number of civilian casualties has declined in
Baghdad since the surge.
Talkback: The number seems to have
declined in Baghdad but has increased outside Baghdad. Why? The
insurgents have moved their operations to less-heavily patrolled
areas. The word "seems" is used because the Pentagon has not
explained how the numbers are calculated or if they have been
independently verified. Also, in some Baghdad neighborhoods, sadly,
ethnic cleansing has been completed and few are left to kill.
Talkback based on Paul Krugman, "Snow Job in the Desert," New York
Times, 7-3-07, p. A17
Talkback:
Today's NY Times contains a front-page story about the decline of
casualties in Baghdad, but as an almost silent rebuke is a box that
contains the names of three Americans who died within the past 24
hours. Yesterday's box contained four names. If
everything is going so swimmingly, why do we still see those names?
November 24, 2007
Talkback:
If things are going so well in Iraq, why don't we declare victory
and come home? November 24, 2007
Representatives Tim Mahoney of Florida and Representative Brian
Baird say that they see evidence of "progress" in Iraq. Mahoney's
conclusion is based on a visit he made to Iraq in August 2007
Talkback: What visitors see
is what the military wants the visitors to see. Nobody goes
outside the safest areas of Iraq without military protection and
guidance--not even Iraqi journalists. We are totally dependant on
the military for virtually all information about how much progress
the military is making. September 2, 2007
We can
trust
General
Petraeus.
Talkback: General
Petraeus is the father of the surge. How objective can we
expect him to be about his own idea? September 3, 2007
General
Petraeus is not a politician.
Talkback: Really?
He is more political than his press would have us believe. For
example, just six weeks before the 2004 election,
Petraeus wrote an op-ed article in The Washington Post in which
he claimed that there had been "tangible progress" and that
"momentum had gathered in recent months."
You can be sure that the
general's piece was vetted at the highest levels, and that it
certainly would not have been permitted had
Petraeus been critical of the Iraq War. If the
general is not political, why did he publish just before a
critical election? One other question. Does the
general always see "progress" ? September 3, 2007
If we pull out now, we will give the radical
Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will
lose their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody
should have thought about the consequences of failure before trying
to occupy and destroy the social infrastructure of an existing
society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan, Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan,
Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you own it.
Talkback: This is
sometimes true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if
you keep breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never
come back
If we pull out, the extremists will take
over.
Talkback: They already
have. The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the
radicals will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens
of thousands.
Talkback: The American
occupation has become a rallying cry, a stimulus to radicalize
ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that Americans today are
absolutely hated in that part of the world--a dangerous sea change
of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no Saigon
moment in Iraq. Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of
losing the civil war to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times
as numerous as Iraq's Sunni Arabs...Iraq after
an American defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a
land divided along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a
civil war being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The
New York Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the job.
Talkback: The definition
of 'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.
IRAQ
Vice-President Dick Chaney On Iraq
In
a private meeting in September 2002,
Chaney tried to convince Dick Armey, the Republican House majority
leader, who was skeptical about a war in Iraq. Here is Chaney's
prediction:
"We have great information. They're going to welcome us. It'll be
like the American Army going through the streets of Paris. They're
sitting there ready to form a new government. The people will be so
happy with their freedoms that we'll probably back ourselves out of
there within a month or two."
Source: Robert Draper: Dead Certain: The Presidency of George W.
Bush, Free Press, 2007)
Talkback:
Nothing needs to be said.
Just quote the fool.
George W. Bush has promised to
veto Democratic-inspired budget proposals.
Talkback:
Nothing means more to Bush and his Republican enablers than
cutting taxes. Hence, Bush is the only American President to urge
cutting taxes while in a war.
With untold billions earmarked for Iraq and other military misadventures, look for more cuts in children's healthcare, less money for mine safety inspections, less money actually available for the Gulf Coast, and more bridge and tunnel failures The money for Iraq has to come from somewhere.
Republicans, with bizarre illogic, approve
spending whatever is needed to achieve "victory" in Iraq but oppose
providing government aid for needs at home.
George W. Bush believes we're
"kicking ass" in Iraq. According to the Sydney Morning
Herald of Australia, the president gave the following assessment of
the situation in Iraq to Australia Deputy Prime Minister Mark
Vaile: "We're kicking ass."
Talkback:
Some of Mr. Bush's observations are so patently absurd that
no response is needed. September 8, 2007
George W. Bush's top advisers have
told him not to change course in Iraq.
Talkback:
Of course they do. At least the
new ones do. Bush finds a way to get rid of advisers who disagree
with him.
When the Baker-Hamilton panel, which was evenly divided between
Democrats and Republicans, recommended changing course--scaling back
military operations and using diplomacy--the White House blocked the
reconvening of the panel. September 9, 2007
George W. Bush says we have an obligation to protect what he calls
the fragile, new democracy in Iraq.
Talkback: It takes more than an election to be a democracy. Saddam Hussein held elections. The Iraqi government is a puppet government; its elected officials were vetted by Bush enablers before they were allowed to run. The present government is a puppet government so unpopular that it cannot be shown to the public. When it meets occasionally, it must do so in the most secure part of Baghdad. (September 8, 2007)
George W. Bush on
Iraq's Militia Groups
In his speech to the American Legion on August 28, 2007, President
Bush stated: "For all those who ask whether the fight in Iraq is
worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by Iran
control large parts of the country."
Talkback:
Militias and their political allies already control large
parts of the country.
September 1, 2007
Bush on Victory in Iraq
Talkback: Bush plans to stay in Iraq until he leaves
office. His successor will have to bring the troops home. When
that happens, Bush will cynically state that if his successor had
not quit and run, victory would have been achieved. Bush thus
calculates that he has it both ways. If, by some miracle, Iraq is
stabilized before he leaves office, he claims victory. If that
doesn't happen, Bush blames his successor.
Bush Listens to Commanders in the Field,
Not to Politicians
Talkback: Tell that to General George W. Casey, commander of
U.S. forces in Iraq, who opposed the "surge." Bush fired General
Casey. Bush does listen to people--if they agree with him.
Bush on Training
the Iraqi Security Forces To Take Over
Talkback: Who's to say that
Americans are not training and equipping death squads,
out-of-control religious militia, and rogue units? In fact, there's
strong evidence that this is already happening. Is it too
difficult to remember that a few decades ago, Americans trained and
equipped Afghan tribesmen to fight the Russians? Those tribal units
in Afghanistan subsequently morphed into the Taliban, which now
kills Americans.
The Iraq war has made the world a
safer place.
Talkback:
A report from U.S. intelligence agencies in July 2007 concluded
that the Iraq war had helped al-Qaeda gain recruits, raise more
money, and given a new generation of terrorists valuable
experience. ("National Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat
to the US Homeland," July 2007)
We should be
patient. The American Revolution took a long time.
On July 4, 2007, Bush compared the conflict in Iraq with the
American Revolution.
Talkback: There's a problem with that comparison. In the
American Revolution--the insurgents won.
Bush deliberately pinned his Presidency on the outcome of the Iraq War. The relatively easy initial invasion morphed into a deadly three-way civil war. Americans sided with the Shia sect, which is more radical than the Sunnis, and hated by them. Prior to the occupation, of the 50-plus Islamic nations, there was only one Shia-ruled nation--Iran. Now there are two. And Iraq has been dismembered into three weak states dominated by three ethnic/religious groups: Kurds, Shia, and Sunni.
If
we don’t fight the enemy in
Iraq, we will have to
fight them here.
Talkback: Tell this to the British. They are fighting the
enemy in Iraq but the British presence in
Iraq has not prevented terrorists to attack targets in Great
Britain. In fact, the British involvement in Iraq has probably
heightened the risk by inflaming its Islamic population.
Talkback: If Americans were not in
Iraq, the billions of dollars that have been spent there could be
invested in homeland security.
Talkback: Why should the enemy risk transporting combatants
to kill Americans here when the President is willing to transport
American targets to them?
Talkback: Hundreds of thousands have been transported at
enormous expense to the killing fields of Iraq, where they are shot
at and bombed at the enemy's discretion.
"Progress" in Iraq and
General
Petraeus
Talkback: So far, every month of
2007 has seen more U.S. military fatalities than
the same month in 2006.
General
Petraeus
says the number of civilian casualties has declined in
Baghdad since
the surge.
Talkback: The number seems to have
declined in Baghdad but has increased outside Baghdad. Why? The
insurgents have moved their operations to less-heavily patrolled
areas. The word "seems" is used because the Pentagon has not
explained how the numbers are calculated or if they have been
independently verified. Also, in some Baghdad neighborhoods, sadly,
ethnic cleansing has been completed and few are left to kill.
Talkback based on Paul Krugman, "Snow Job in the Desert," New York
Times, 7-3-07, p. A17
Talkback:
Today's NY Times contains a
front-page story about the decline of casualties in Baghdad, but as
an almost silent rebuke is a box that contains the names of three
Americans who died within the past 24 hours. Yesterday's box
contained four names. If everything is going so swimmingly, why do
we still see those names?
November 24, 2007
Talkback: If things are going so well in Iraq, why don't we
declare victory and come home? November 24, 2007
Representatives Tim
Mahoney of Florida and
Representative Brian Baird say that they see evidence of "progress"
in Iraq. Mahoney's conclusion is based on a visit he made to Iraq
in August 2007
Talkback: What visitors
see is what the military wants the visitors to see. Nobody goes
outside the safest areas of
Iraq without military protection and
guidance--not even Iraqi journalists. We are totally dependant on
the military for virtually all information about how much progress
the military is making. September 2, 2007
We can trust
General
Petraeus.
Talkback: General
Petraeus is
the father of the surge. How objective can we expect him to be
about his own idea? September 3, 2007
General
Petraeus
is not a politician.
Talkback: Really?
He is more political than his press would have us believe. For
example, just six weeks before the 2004 election,
Petraeus
wrote an op-ed article in The
Washington Post in which he claimed
that there had been "tangible progress" and that "momentum had
gathered in recent months."
You can be sure that the
general's
piece was vetted at the highest levels, and that it certainly would
not have been permitted had
Petraeus been
critical of the Iraq War. If the
general is
not political, why did he publish just before a critical election?
One other question. Does the
general
always see "progress" ? September 3, 2007
If we pull out now, we
will give the radical Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will lose
their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody should have thought about the
consequences of failure before trying to occupy and destroy the
social infrastructure of an existing society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan,
Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan, Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you
own it.
Talkback: This is sometimes
true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if you keep
breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never come back
If we pull out, the
extremists will take over.
Talkback: They already have.
The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the radicals
will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens of
thousands.
Talkback: The American occupation has become a rallying cry,
a stimulus to radicalize ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that
Americans today are absolutely hated in that part of the world--a
dangerous sea change of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no
Saigon moment in Iraq.
Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of losing the civil war
to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times as numerous as Iraq's
Sunni Arabs...Iraq after an American
defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a land divided
along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a civil war
being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The New York
Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the
job.
Talkback: The definition of
'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.
Americans have never
cut and run.
Talkback:
Have you never heard of Viet Nam?
Have you never seen the photograph of American helicopters rescuing
survivors from the roof of the American embassy in Saigon? Have
you never heard of Lebanon? After 244 American military personnel
were killed in Beirut in the bombing of Marine barracks in 1983,
President Reagan vowed to remain in Lebanon. In 1984, he ordered
the withdrawal of American forces.
We are at war.
Talkback: America has
been at war with somebody for over 60 years, Yet the nation got
through a Cold War with a nuclear-armed, long-range-missile-equipped
super-power without power-grabs by Presidents. Just because the
nation is fighting a war does not mean that its people should give
up long-cherished freedoms or allow the President the powers of a
dictator.
Talkback: There’s a qualitative and quantitative difference between being at war and being in a war. A big difference.
If we pull out now, we will give the radical
Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will
lose their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody
should have thought about the consequences of failure before trying
to occupy and destroy the social infrastructure of an existing
society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan, Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan,
Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you own it.
Talkback: This is
sometimes true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if
you keep breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never
come back
If we pull out, the extremists will take
over.
Talkback: They already
have. The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the
radicals will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens
of thousands.
Talkback: The American
occupation has become a rallying cry, a stimulus to radicalize
ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that Americans today are
absolutely hated in that part of the world--a dangerous sea change
of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no Saigon
moment in Iraq. Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of
losing the civil war to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times
as numerous as Iraq's Sunni Arabs...Iraq after
an American defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a
land divided along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a
civil war being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The
New York Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the job.
Talkback: The definition
of 'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.
Americans have never cut and run.
Talkback: Have you never heard
of Viet Nam? Have you never seen the photograph of American
helicopters rescuing survivors from the roof of the American embassy
in Saigon? Have you never heard of Lebanon? After 244 American
military personnel were killed in Beirut in the bombing of Marine
barracks in 1983, President Reagan vowed to remain in Lebanon. In
1984, he ordered the withdrawal of American forces.
George W. Bush has promised to veto
Democratic-inspired budget proposals.
Talkback:
Nothing means more to Bush and his Republican enablers than cutting taxes.
Hence, Bush is the only American President to urge cutting taxes while in
a war.
With untold billions earmarked for Iraq and other military misadventures, look for more cuts in children's healthcare, less money for mine safety inspections, less money actually available for the Gulf Coast, and more bridge and tunnel failures The money for Iraq has to come from somewhere.
Republicans, with bizarre illogic, approve spending whatever is needed to
achieve "victory" in Iraq but oppose providing government aid for
needs at home.
George W. Bush believes we're "kicking ass" in Iraq.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald of Australia, the
president gave the following assessment of the situation in Iraq to
Australia Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile: "We're kicking ass."
Talkback:
Some of Mr. Bush's observations are so patently absurd that
no response is needed. September 8, 2007
George W. Bush's top advisers have told him not to
change course in Iraq.
Talkback: Of
course they do. At least the new ones do. Bush finds a way to
get rid of advisers who
disagree with him.
When the Baker-Hamilton panel, which was evenly divided between Democrats
and Republicans, recommended changing course--scaling back military
operations and using diplomacy--the White House blocked the reconvening of
the panel. September 9, 2007
George W. Bush says we have an obligation to protect what he calls the
fragile, new democracy in Iraq.
Talkback: It takes more than an election to be a democracy. Saddam Hussein held elections. The Iraqi government is a puppet government; its elected officials were vetted by Bush enablers before they were allowed to run. The present government is a puppet government so unpopular that it cannot be shown to the public. When it meets occasionally, it must do so in the most secure part of Baghdad. (September 8, 2007)
George W. Bush on Iraq's Militia
Groups
In his speech to the American Legion on August 28, 2007,
President Bush stated: "For all those who ask whether the fight in
Iraq is worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by
Iran control large parts of the country."
Talkback:
Militias and their political allies already control
large parts of the country.
September 1, 2007
Bush on Victory in Iraq
Talkback: Bush plans to stay in
Iraq until he leaves office. His successor will have to bring
the troops home. When that happens, Bush will cynically state
that if his successor had not quit and run, victory would have been
achieved. Bush thus calculates that he has it both ways. If,
by some miracle, Iraq is stabilized before he leaves office, he claims
victory. If that doesn't happen, Bush blames his
successor.
Bush Listens to Commanders in the Field, Not to
Politicians
Talkback: Tell that to General George W. Casey,
commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, who opposed the "surge." Bush
fired General Casey. Bush does listen to people--if they agree with
him.
Bush on Training the Iraqi Security Forces To Take
Over
Talkback: Who's
to say that Americans are not training and equipping death squads,
out-of-control religious militia, and rogue units? In fact, there's
strong evidence that this is already happening. Is it too
difficult to remember that a few decades ago, Americans trained and
equipped Afghan tribesmen to fight the Russians? Those tribal units
in Afghanistan subsequently morphed into the Taliban, which now kills
Americans.
The Iraq war has made the world a safer
place.
Talkback: A
report from U.S. intelligence agencies in July 2007 concluded that the
Iraq war had helped al-Qaeda gain recruits, raise more money, and given a
new generation of terrorists valuable experience. ("National
Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat to the US Homeland," July
2007)
We should be patient. The American Revolution
took a long time. On July 4, 2007, Bush compared the
conflict in Iraq with the American Revolution.
Talkback: There's a problem with that comparison. In the
American Revolution--the insurgents won.
Bush deliberately pinned his Presidency on the outcome of the Iraq War. The relatively easy initial invasion morphed into a deadly three-way civil war. Americans sided with the Shia sect, which is more radical than the Sunnis, and hated by them. Prior to the occupation, of the 50-plus Islamic nations, there was only one Shia-ruled nation--Iran. Now there are two. And Iraq has been dismembered into three weak states dominated by three ethnic/religious groups: Kurds, Shia, and Sunni.
If we
don’t fight the enemy in Iraq, we will have to fight them here.
Talkback:
Tell this to the British.
They are fighting the enemy in Iraq but the British presence in Iraq
has not prevented terrorists to attack targets in Great Britain. In
fact, the British involvement in Iraq has probably heightened the
risk by inflaming its Islamic population.
Talkback:
If Americans were not in Iraq, the billions of
dollars that have been spent there could be invested in homeland
security.
Talkback:
Why should the enemy risk
transporting combatants to kill Americans here when the President is
willing to transport American targets to them?
Talkback: Hundreds of
thousands have been transported at enormous expense to the killing
fields of Iraq, where they are shot at and bombed at the enemy's
discretion.
"Progress" in Iraq and
General
Petraeus
Talkback: So far, every month of 2007
has seen more U.S. military fatalities than the same month in 2006.
General
Petraeus says the number of civilian casualties has declined in
Baghdad since the surge.
Talkback: The number seems to have
declined in Baghdad but has increased outside Baghdad. Why? The
insurgents have moved their operations to less-heavily patrolled
areas. The word "seems" is used because the Pentagon has not
explained how the numbers are calculated or if they have been
independently verified. Also, in some Baghdad neighborhoods, sadly,
ethnic cleansing has been completed and few are left to kill.
Talkback based on Paul Krugman, "Snow Job in the Desert," New York
Times, 7-3-07, p. A17
Talkback:
Today's NY Times contains a front-page story about the decline of
casualties in Baghdad, but as an almost silent rebuke is a box that
contains the names of three Americans who died within the past 24
hours. Yesterday's box contained four names. If
everything is going so swimmingly, why do we still see those names?
November 24, 2007
Talkback:
If things are going so well in Iraq, why don't we declare victory
and come home? November 24, 2007
Representatives Tim Mahoney of Florida and Representative Brian
Baird say that they see evidence of "progress" in Iraq. Mahoney's
conclusion is based on a visit he made to Iraq in August 2007
Talkback: What visitors see
is what the military wants the visitors to see. Nobody goes
outside the safest areas of Iraq without military protection and
guidance--not even Iraqi journalists. We are totally dependant on
the military for virtually all information about how much progress
the military is making. September 2, 2007
We can
trust
General
Petraeus.
Talkback: General
Petraeus is the father of the surge. How objective can we
expect him to be about his own idea? September 3, 2007
General
Petraeus is not a politician.
Talkback: Really?
He is more political than his press would have us believe. For
example, just six weeks before the 2004 election,
Petraeus wrote an op-ed article in The Washington Post in which
he claimed that there had been "tangible progress" and that
"momentum had gathered in recent months."
You can be sure that the
general's piece was vetted at the highest levels, and that it
certainly would not have been permitted had
Petraeus been critical of the Iraq War. If the
general is not political, why did he publish just before a
critical election? One other question. Does the
general always see "progress" ? September 3, 2007
If we pull out now, we will give the radical
Islamists a safe haven.
Talkback: If Americans pull out now, the radicals will
lose their most effective recruiting tool--an occupying army.
Talkback: Somebody
should have thought about the consequences of failure before trying
to occupy and destroy the social infrastructure of an existing
society.
Talkback: Radical Islamists already have safe havens all over
the world— in Sudan, Lebanon, the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan,
Syria, Iran.
If you break it, you own it.
Talkback: This is
sometimes true in very little shops, but even in a little shop, if
you keep breaking things, you will be asked to leave...and never
come back
If we pull out, the extremists will take
over.
Talkback: They already
have. The longer Americans stay as occupiers, the more likely the
radicals will gain strength. Moderates are fleeing Iraq by the tens
of thousands.
Talkback: The American
occupation has become a rallying cry, a stimulus to radicalize
ordinary citizens. Every poll shows that Americans today are
absolutely hated in that part of the world--a dangerous sea change
of opinion.
Talkback: The American
occupation has created an Iraqi mafia. The parallels are striking.
The mafia was formed in Sicily as a secret resistance movement to
protect native people from successive waves of invaders.
Talkback: "There will be no Saigon
moment in Iraq. Iraq's Shiite-led government is in no danger of
losing the civil war to al-Qaeda....Iraq's Shiites are three times
as numerous as Iraq's Sunni Arabs...Iraq after
an American defeat will look very much like Iraq today--a
land divided along ethnic lines into Arab and Kurdish states with a
civil war being fought within its Arab part." Peter Galbraith, The
New York Review, August 16, 2007. p. 4
We need to finish the job.
Talkback: The definition
of 'the job' keeps changing.
Talkback: At first the 'job' was to destroy the weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
Then the 'job' became destroying "evil." But social scientists have long known that this is impossible. If there is no evil, society will create evil.
Then the "job" morphed into eliminating a hated dictator who tortured and killed his own people, but a former ally. The dictator was killed, and American troops and mercenaries set about doing what the dictator had done—killing and torturing people.
The "job" somehow became ending terrorism. That was a problem, because in the 1700s, Americans were branded as terrorists by the British, and during the 1940s Allied Forces freely used terrorist tactics against the Germans. The Israelis used terrorist tactics to drive the British out of Palestine (For proof, Google the words “King David Hotel, Begin” and see what comes up).
Americans used terrorist tactics against Castro. So when Condi Rice said, “A terrorist is a terrorist,” what she really meant is a terrorist is bad only if that terrorist is not our terrorist
The war against terrorism has now morphed into a war against radical Islam.
One important "job" that seems to have faded is to establish democracy all over the Middle East. Iraq was to become a model of what could be done all over that part of the world. Let us hope not.
The first chance people in the Middle East got to participate in free democratic elections, they voted for radical leaders--in democratic elections. It seems the masses hate American foreign policy more than their leaders do.
The 'job de jur' now seems to be to enable the puppet government of Iraq to survive.
Who knows how the "job" will be defined tomorrow.
Frighteningly, the insurgents seem to be the ones who are finishing the job, not Americans—draining the treasury dry at the rate of about $11 billion a month, destroying the army and marines, and driving out an occupier.